Maybe all rural politics runs into issues of control.  I don't know because I live in Maricopa County and it seems there are a lot of control issues in some districts in this county.  I also live part time in Navajo County and have for years, so I know a thing or two about the Republican Committee there.

I met Karen MacKean at a campaign event in 2010 in Lakeside, AZ.  It happened that she was the elected Chairman of NCRC and ran a tea party at the height of that movement.  I went to the meetings of NCRC and the tea party.  Soon I discovered that MacKean was not just very dedicated to those two organizations and winning elections, I learned that she is a creative thinker and a fearless leader.  I immediately got involved with the work she was doing to elect conservative candidates at the CD and the county level.  She took on her city council, too.  Her instincts for what is the right thing to do are impeccable.  It's a fact that these qualities bring some discontent among some in politics.

While NCRC chairman, Karen was constantly organizing activities to meet their goals. She included Allen in all invitations, showcased her at both the tea party and NCRC meetings, helped her with events.  From my observation as an onlooker, Allen basked in being 'important" and she had MacKean to thank for that.  It was at these events and meetings that I first met Allen.  She was in the Senate.  My most vivid memory is that she was trying to help someone in her community.  I forget the details but it was something I had the tools to help with and I offered my help. Several times.  Allen ignored my offer.  Nonetheless, I did watch her from a distance to see what she was about, including how she represented her district at the Legislature and how she voted. Don't get me started on that. 

Somewhere along the way I heard about the ABC agreement: Allen, Barton, Crandall.  This was an agreement to switch seats with Barton when her looming term limit came and Barton would run for Senate and Allen would run for House.  ALL THREE AGREED TO THIS PLAN.  Since the party in that district, spanning Navajo, Gila and Coconino Counties, was happy with this trio, it seemed to be a good idea to keep all in office.  It's not easy to find good candidates like Barton or even mediocre ones like Allen in these small communities.

At some point, Sylvia left the Senate and got elected to the Navajo Board of Supervisors and Chester Crandall moved up to the Senate. When he passed on after an accident, Sylvia decided to run for Chester's seat in the Senate.  She barely squeaked to a win.  One can make the case that the ABC plan was nullified at that point but in fact, Allen thought it was a great idea for first her, then Crandall, to move from Senate to House to keep Barton in the mix, but she doesn't think that idea is so great this year when Barton is termed out.  Barton is the one with impeachable principles.  For Sylvia to say she never made such an agreement is just plain false.

Back to NCRC.  MacKean's 1st Vice Chair was Dara Vanesian, a close friend and a closet libertarian.  She rounded up new recruits to grow the committee.  Unbeknownst to MacKean, they were all libertarians, not republicans.  When it came time to hold district elections, Vanesian ran against MacKean and won by four using the libertarian votes.  Some friend!  Vanesian went on to do nothing with the district. By the time of the next election, many of the republican stalwarts had left and Vanesian was the only candidate for Chairman.  The district continued to dwindle until there were no meetings, no activities, no anything - except money in the treasury.  She stands accused now of misusing the treasury for her own pursuits and that is yet to be settled.  Where was Allen's outrage then over the diminution of the Republican party in Navajo County?

In 2016, Steve Slaton came along and, with MacKean, decided to reconstitute the district that had been dormant for essentially four years.  Slaton is a Vietnam veteran and is Commander of the VFW Post in Snowflake.  Being military, he is used to discipline and doing things the right way. I started attending the meetings again.  Slaton ran the district like a business, straight and honestly and by the book.  Disciplined.  The meetings I attended were well run and orderly.  Allen was not in attendance. 

Then the Lines recall effort came along and Allen and Slaton disagreed about that.  Apparently, it became a breaking point for Sylvia that Lines might be recalled and Navajo County might be the deciding votes!  That's when things got very tense in NCRC and it seems Allen started to attend meetings more regularly.  She attended the meeting in Show Low where she called the speaker, me, a Nazi. I was asked to explain the process for vetting membership applicants for Arizona Republican Assembly.  The goal of that organization is to recruit and accept those who are Republicans and who believe in the Constitution and the party platform, not as pieces of paper, but as the right guidelines laid out by the Founding Fathers.  Allen jumped in and said that was just the way Hitler started - he vetted. I continued on and she continued to jump in and disrupt. Finally, I asked her if she was calling me and the organization Nazis.  She sputtered in denial but then I said we vetted to be sure we were not accepting democrats.  She responded, "Maybe you should!"  Maybe she thought that would qualify her for membership!

When I finished, Allen jumped up without bothering to get the floor properly and proceeded to give a speech on civility and unity.  It was a good speech with a good message.  It became clear to me that she had brought a lot of her family members and a heated discussion ensued thereafter, all against the sitting board and in particular, against the Chairman, Slaton.  That idea of civility lasted about 45 minutes. It was apparent that she had an organized plan to disrupt and discredit Slaton! The meeting concluded with a lot of tightly drawn lines created by Allen.

In the parking lot, I was standing at MacKean's car discussing the meeting and the next steps in getting signatures for the recall of Lines when Allen charged up to me and started yelling in my face.  'Let's be civil' flew out the window: do as I say, not as I do is Allen's motto!  I don't recall the exact words she was using but she was quite crude and insulting.  As I began to walk away, her husband called me an ugly name.  The war for the NCRC was on!  Odd, I thought, Allen was a disinterested member of the NCRC until the recall of Lines began.

It was after that Allen formed a new Republican Party apparatus. She denied doing it but that has been proven false.  She was so committed to keeping Lines in office, I had to wonder just what her pay off was.

The bottom line is this: if Slaton and MacKean had not re-formed NCRC, there would be no organized party in Navajo County. Allen sure did not pick up the pieces and get it going again but now she suddenly wants to have it for her own.  She's willing to steal it which, in my opinion, is just what she did with the help of Jonathan Lines.  I don't believe anything like this has happened in recent years in the AZGOP. Illegal? That would be for a court to decide but it will not get that far. Unethical? Yes. Unscrupulous, disreputable, dirty-dealing?  Absolutely.  This is the Senator making decisions on our behalf in the state legislature. Think about that for a moment.

Do I think district chairs will step forward to correct this situation?  Few, if any.

Some ask why people are leaving the Republican party.  This is the reason! 

Other means must be used to keep Arizona red because these tactics are a recipe for electing democrats who focus on the goal, the enemy - the republicans.  The Republicans focus on advancing their personal agendas. Not all, for certain. However, we know the story of the one bad apple in the barrel. Arizona has enough bad apples to ruin not just a few barrels but the entire party.

To me, the question is, will the Legislators also turn a blind eye to this?  Will they continue to support Lines and Allen just in hopes of getting a cut of the election funding?  Will Allen keep her coveted committee chairmanship? 

It's looking like the Legislature will have its hands full with a myriad of problems this session!  This I know: nothing good will come of this brouhaha that Sylvia Allen created.

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Angela - Not surprising to me that Chair Lines would not take their calls.  Lines had Internet Town hall phone link conversation.  One PC asked 8 questions and the Lines answers were to all 8 - silence.

Yesterday I downloaded the NRCRC by-laws dated January 2017 from the NCRC web site.  I also noted the officers have been changed.  Some one forgot to lock the door to the web site.  Who ever is maintaining the web site should be contacted to change the password or the person should be replaced.

If you an get a copy of the so called revised November 2017 bylaws let me know.  If there were any reason to make changes such as non-compliance with the state bylaws that is valid.  But no doubt the dirty players changed it to protect from a reversal coup.

The illegal meeting 75 to 80 % voted for the new so called officers.  How many were proxies?

I have tons of questions and only getting started.

I cannot wait, until the cesspool is eliminated!

Shirley Dye you said about Senator Allen - "And, yes, she occasionally needs her constituents to change her mind on some issues like the NPV which 75 of us in Gila County got her to hear our views and she pledged NOT to vote for it, even though she has signed on as a co-sponsor originally."  I say = Yes it was easy to say and assure a no vote on NPV in the Senate when every senator knew Biggs had it in a pocket veto.  Why co-sponsor such an obvious left attempt to circumvent the constitution?  MONEY.  Democrat money from California was buying AZ House and Senate votes.  I know as the Speaker of the House at that time was from LD14.  I am one of the current LD14 VICE Chairs.  I am sure there are many good qualities of Senator Allen.  Her margin for her last election 72+% impressed.

Why would Lynne Breyer say:

"It was after that Allen formed a new Republican Party apparatus. She denied doing it but that has been proven false.  She was so committed to keeping Lines in office, I had to wonder just what her pay off was."

One of the so called reasons for the NCRC leadership illegal changes was the conflict dissension at NRC meetings. Allen went ballistic at a recent meeting. WHY?

The war for the NCRC was on! Odd, I thought, Allen was a disinterested member of the NCRC until the recall of Lines began.” said Breyer after having a parking lot interaction with Senator Allen.

The COUP in the NCRC smells and Allen's actions before, during and lingering on simply stinks. Robert Graham destroyed PC trust in and integrity of the AZGOP. Thank GOD he is gone, but still meddling. AZGOP Chairman Lines has done nothing but further destroy the trust of the PCs and republican voters. The most significant Lines betrayal was the hiring of Matthew Kenney, A MCCAIN operative and former director of the McCain AZ Grassroots PAC. I have evidence of Kenney recruiting fake Vietnamese PCs. Totally disgraceful.

It is not a war for the NCRC. AZ has a civil war in progress for the soul of the state republican party. The NCRC coup is nothing more than a skirmish. Wait for it! There may be an explosion on 1/27/2018.

Shirley you may be on the wrong side in this war.

Hello to all of you standing with Steve - COME ON DOWN!!

LD14 meeting on 1/13/2017 in Benson City Hall starting at 9:00 am - guest speaker is:

Tom Morrissey.  We are going to have great time.  Maybe we can convene a natural law Citizens Grand Jury.

There is no SNOW in Cochise county.

Bruce:   Thanks for the heads up on the ncrc site!!!          


Both I and my husband would like to attend. Unfortunately, that's the same day the Yavapai County Republican Committee is having our mandatory meeting. I'll see you all on January 27 at state. Please remind every State Committeemen to stay through the whole meeting. Do not leave until it is adjourned. The quorum must be maintained by real live individuals in attendance. 

So, yesterday I think there was a letter from that guy Vance whoever in Briefs explaining his side of the story.  He went on to incriminate himself when he said he didn't send the call letter through the secretary as called for in their bylaws. Because he said the secretary would not have sent it out. So he admits he bypassed the rules he didn't like to hold this special meeting.  Looks to me like that invalidates the meeting altogether.

Pat J - I also caught that indiscretion by Vance.  The NCRC bylaws were violated - period.  There were no rules to be violated.  All Allen and Vance accomplished was a meeting of Navajo county PCs which according to law could not conduct any legal business.  I have conducted many of those types of meetings in Cochise - I call them information meetings.

We do live in the wild West but the Allen and Vance attempted coup does not even come close to being legal.  There are many ways for the NCRC to force Lines to reverse his statements.

Well, it seems that nobody was sure who the chairman for NCRC was at the EC meeting on the 16th. When the chairman of Navajo County was asked to give his report, you could have heard a pin drop. Total silence for a few seconds until Sylvia Allen pointed to Mr. Vance and said: "that's you!" I leave it to you to try to figure this one out. 

It's clear to me the chairman is Steve Slaton. No legal meeting was held to remove him. In fact, as we have seen on this site there would be no NCRC if not for Slaton.  Leave it to a politician to let others do the work and then take credit for it.  The actual officers of NCRC got railroaded by the democrat acting liberal RINOs

Thanks Pat!!



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