Its surprising how much you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit
[Editor: One more reason to not just vote for Trump but work to get him elected. Who is named to the Supreme Count will ultimately decide this case. The 9th Circuit is constantly overturned but not if Obama succeeds in persuading the very persuadable U.S. Senate to allow him to name the next Justice! So far, the Seante and the House has let Obama have everything he wants!]
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- In a victory for gun control advocates, a federal appeals court said Thursday people do not have a right to carry concealed weapons in public under the 2nd Amendment.
An 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said law enforcement officials can require applicants for a concealed weapons permit to show they are in immediate danger or have another good reason for a permit beyond self-defense.
The decision overturned a 2014 ruling by a smaller 9th Circuit panel and came in a lawsuit over the denial of concealed weapons permits by a sheriff in San Diego County.
California generally prohibits people from carrying handguns in public without such a permit. State law requires applicants to show good moral character, have good cause and take a training course.
In San Diego County, the sheriff required applicants to show supporting documents such as restraining orders against possible attackers to show good cause for a permit. The requirement prompted a lawsuit by residents who were denied a permit.
During oral arguments before the 11-judge 9th Circuit panel, Paul Clement, an attorney for the residents, argued that the self-defense standard should be sufficient and asking for more violates the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.
California Solicitor General Edward DuMont countered that there was a long and rich tradition of restricting concealed weapons in cities and towns. California officials sought to intervene in the case after the San Diego sheriff declined to appeal.
California officials said loosening concealed weapons permitting standards and allowing more people to carry guns threatens law enforcement officials and endangers the public.
Clement countered that there was no evidence that crime went up in counties such as Fresno and Sacramento that had more permissive "good cause" standards.
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Thank you, Rich. We agree, particularly about the "lie and a myth" of the power of the Supremes. Even they overturn their own decisions from time to time. This was posted to prove the absurdity of the court system. State lawmakers will never have the guts to take them on until we elect better lawmakers. Very few incumbents deserve re-election!
The REAL PROBLEM is that if this gets to the Supreme Court ... the way it is today ... it will be a split decision IF WE ARE LUCKY .... and if it is ... then the lower court ruling holds !!!
Vote for Trump, our Republic depends on it, as does our military !!!
if it goes down this way.....the people will never submit...
1,000,000 New Yorkers REFUSED to register their semi-automatic weapons in 2014....
@Rich About the same number in AZ!
the courts will me deemed instantly rogue
Time for us all to learn a little bit more about what Jefferson and Madison wrote about and advocated for in the Principles of '98--Nullification. I don't care how many black-robed-gods say what we can and cannot do. They don't have the final say so. We the People do.
Of course, carrying concealed in public is NOT a 2nd Amendment right. I agree wholeheartedly. It really is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT, only substantiated and documented by the 2nd Amendment. I have not traveled into Kommiefornia since 1993 and have no intention to ever go there again. However, in my many visits to that state prior to 1993, I ALWAYS carried concealed firearms in violation of every law on the books at that time. I was prepared to use my weapons in self defense if the need ever arose, and I was also prepared to ensure not a single witness of any kind was left to talk about my self defense. I have the same attitude about any and all laws against our God-given and Constitutionally protected rights, whether at the federal, state, county, or local levels.
I obey nothing I disagree with when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. If ANYONE disagrees with my stance, that's their freakin' problem, not mine. My rights SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. End of discussion. Oh, one final thing.
The 9th circuit court in California ruling against an American being able to carry a concealed weapon means in that western states where they have more jurisdiction , you can expect more of these murders because no law abiding citizen will be there to stop the would be killer! The KEY WORDS ARE Law abiding citizens, not illegals or those here on a "student visa". The gun free zones are the hunting grounds and killing fields of crooks and terrorists, Chicago & Washington DC are prime examples. Require every law abiding citizen to own and be able to operate and care for a gun , and you will never have another problem in our country with violent crimes and most terrorism. There is a reason why there has not been nuclear war or why no nation has used nuclear weapons against anyone since WW-2. Each side knows that each other is " packing " !!!!!