Deep State About to take Trump out VS Trump is About to take Deep State Out: Which?

[Editor: Here are two totally different, but both plausible, views of what is about to happen in the Big Ugly.  These come at the same time from two respectable online bloggers, both that have decent research departments.  The only thing we can say is that one of them is probably right.  We at AFA have been researching this deep state issue for weeks.  Most of us know that this country cannot continue on the course it's been on for the past year.  One of these two scenarios is about to break, more than likely.  The third option is that there is another hidden option, one that replicates the unpredictable Trump style we have seen so much of.  Wild and bumpy rides ahead. It's the Christmas season when most of us don't want to be watching politics - the perfect time for this to occur if it's going to!

First scenario put out by DC Clothesline:

Julian Assange: Deep State Ready To Push Trump Out – Install Pence As President

[if this happens, there goes the country, civil war is likely to break out, militias that have been training for years will make themselves known]

On Thursday morning, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sent a tweet that indicates he believes that a long game has been played by the Deep State and others to “extract as many unpopular positions as possible” in order to Push President Donald Trump out of the White House and install Vice President Mike Pence as president.

“Trump’s political capital has been openly looted for months now by GOP, CIA, Netanyahu, Goldman Sachs, etc. Game is clearly to extract as many unpopular positions as possible (e.g tax cuts for the super rich), push the resulting political corpse to Mueller & install Mike Pence,” tweeted Assange.

Continue reading and see Assange's tweets

The second one is 180degrees away from the first one. This has been the centerpiece of the CTH for a couple of weeks now.  It comes from The Conservative Treehouse:

Oh, Here We Go…

…Giddy up!  Democrats just realized the years-long DOJ Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation is about to bite them, hard.  We are now entering the political combat zone where congressional democrats will attack the IG, in advance of the pending report.

Ironically, the Inspector General investigation led by Michael Horowitz was originally a lame-duck request (January 12, 2017) by Democrats prior to President Obama leaving office. [OIG Origination pdf HERE] That’s one of the more brilliant aspects towards its value.  The resulting investigation into the politicization of the FBI and DOJ is revealing details of how both departments were corrupted by political operatives friendly to Democrats.  Consequently, their own demanded investigation now becomes a risk.

As described by Politico: “Judiciary Committee ranking member Jerrold Nadler of New York and two other panel Democrats asked for a full review of DOJ’s decision making that led to Tuesday night’s release of about 375 texts that the FBI officials — Peter Strzok and Lisa Page — sent over a 15-month period during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Continue reading about "the black-hat usurpers"

Batten down the hatches! Something is going to happen... and soon.

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Drain the swamp

Now it's beginning to make sense. I've worn myself out trying to tell Trump supporters to hang in. They want to abandon ship because Sessions wasn't doing anything and Trump was just letting Sessions dwaddle. Trump doesn't dwaddle.  I can hardly wait to send them this article and let them read it. I back Treehouse bc they have been so right on connecting the dots on everything since early 2015

Something is happening already. Think of it as a very seedy motel in the "DeepState" and someone flipped on the bloody light in the kitchen. Look at them scramble!!!! There are two teams doing harm to our country and each wants the other to take the blame by a larger share than they do. Of course there are also wild cards who want to be able to walk the centerline of the hi way to hell without ending up road kill themselves and they are playing the middle, seemingly uncommitted to one side over the other. I predict some will even change sides publicly before this is over, depending on which side the bread is buttered on in their district or state when the shake out is done. This time that great sucking sound is the whirl pool effect sucking wind at the bottom of the swamp/cesspool, not NAFTA.


John: With all due respect I must ask: DO YOU REALLY THINK BOTH TRUMP AND PENCE ARE CHRISTIANS? Here's a paper on why I think America is no longer a Christian nation. Neither Trump nor Pence have shown any interest in addressing the most important issues facing America. 



That America’s government was founded on Christian principles for the purpose of securing people’s unalienable Rights to Life, Liberty and an opportunity for Happiness is unquestionable. America’s motto is “In God We Trust.” Its national hymn is “God of Our Fathers.”  Americans pledge allegiance to “one nation, under God…”; Moses symbolically presides over Congress from his location across from the Speaker of the House; the Ten Commandments are displayed above the chair of the U.S. Supreme Court’s Chief Justice and the 97th Congress declared the Bible to be the word of God in Public Law 97-280. But just what are the Life, Liberty and Happiness we were to have? And if our ability to enjoy them has been diminished or destroyed how did it happen and what does it mean? To help answer this let’s turn to a dictionary.


Life is defined as the organic phenomenon that distinguishes living organisms from nonliving ones. It is the period during which something is functional. By this definition of Life, it begins at conception as we all know a fetus can kick and squirm.

Liberty is defined as freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control and from external or foreign rule. It’s an ability to be independent and free from control, interference, or obligation. It is the freedom to think, speak and act according to choice.

Happiness is the quality or state of being happy. It is characterized by or indicative of pleasure, joy, or contentment.


Once upon a time America honored Biblical pronouncements such as: “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin;”  “Stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage;” observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today; don’t get involved in usury for if you do the alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher about you, and you shall come down lower and lower…..He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail; don’t kill; and Thou shall have no other God’s before me.


Any objective comparison involving modern America’s culture with God’s instructions tell us this.

  • The failure of Americans to “do good” has resulted in our violating God’s will/commands in many ways. Educators don’t educate; they indoctrinate. Law enforcement personnel – both military and civilian - don’t honor their oath and enforce the Supreme Law.
  • Elected officials don’t honor their oath to uphold the Constitution. History has shown them to be immune from the law.
  • Americans have not stood fast in the Liberty “wherewith Christ hath made us free.” We are now ruled by tyrants in accordance with the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto. See
  • We are again “entangled” with the “yoke of bondage.” In spite of the Constitution saying Congress shall coin our money and regulate the value thereof the Department of Treasury has said “the actual creation of money always involves the extension of credit by private commercial banks” and “money to pay the interest on borrowed money comes from the same source that other money comes from;” a clear admission of usury and a road to bondage. Today, Americans owe over $100 trillion in public and private debt and can’t repay any of it under present monetary policy; a policy that is in conformance with the 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto and one that not a single elected official has acted to correct. John Adams said: “there are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.” We’ve been conquered!
  • Although the 6th Commandment says “you shall not murder” America has killed millions of people in the interest of forcing other nations to accept an enslaving monetary policy such as we have. Today, only Cuba, Syria, North Korea and Iran are without a Rothschild controlled central bank. And America is aggressively acting to force them to accept an enslaving monetary policy.
  • In spite of the first Commandment saying “Thou shall have no other God’s before me” over 99% of America’s so called “churches” are incorporated businesses. They elected to have a Secretary of State be their creator. And since a created cannot be greater than its creator, the State is god to these businesses.
  • In the 1961 case of Torcaso v Watkins (367 U.S. 488) the U.S. Supreme Court declared Secular Humanism to be a religion.


Is it not self-evident that America no longer honors God and that we’ve become a nation of sinners and hypocrites and no longer honor James 4:17 by doing what is right? Government has removed us from our biblical mooring. It no longer pursues the purpose for which it was created. Rather, it is now dragging us into the global prison called the New World Order; “a world that has a supranational authority to regulate world commerce and industry, an international organization that would control the production and consumption of oil; an international currency that would replace the dollar; a world development fund that would make funds available to free and communist nations alike; and an international police force to enforce the edicts of the New World Order.”


How did America’s downfall happen? – Is it because too many people have failed to recognize the importance of James 4:17 and to honor it by doing what is right?  It would be easy to blame this failure on our educators, clergy, elected officials, and media and law enforcement personnel (including judges) as it’s clear they are all complicit in the illegal government Acts responsible for destroying our biblical based foundation. But the bottom line is that it’s WE THE PEOPLE who must shoulder the blame. By our failing to do what is right we’ve allowed the Federal government to “exceed the clear bounds of its jurisdiction under the Constitution” as alleged by 30 Republican governors on 11/22/94. It’s self-evident these unconstitutional Acts have destroyed many people’s ability to enjoy a RIGHT and those responsible for them and their perpetuation are criminals. Since many of the Acts have aided and abetted the Constitution’s enemies seeking the NWO the criminals are – according to the Constitution – guilty of Treason. Living under such a despotic system is hardly in keeping with our need to stand fast in the Liberty we were to have. (Gal 5:1) The most influential group behind America’s downfall is the Pilgrims; not those who arrived on the Mayflower, but those who control America from behind the curtain. See


Now what?  America is suffering because of our lack of obedience to the law, both temporal and spiritual. Only if we once again choose to obey both sets of the laws our nation was founded upon can we have any hope for survival. Any hope of “Making America Great Again” as President Trump has said he will do lies with 2 Chrn7:14; “If my people which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”


The first step in humbling ourselves is repentance. Step 2 is to put on our common sense cap and accept the need to unite in spirit and around meaningful action as faith without action is dead. As Thomas Jefferson said: “The Constitution can protect the people only as long as the people are willing to protect the Constitution. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?”  The time for Americans to take note of Psalm 118:8 (KJV) saying “It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man” is long overdue.  


Americans must not only repent but also make a commitment to honor James 4:17 and do what is right. They should stop supporting incorporated businesses calling themselves a church and organizations and individuals professing they can unilaterally restore our Republic. They must accept that the Republican and Democrat parties are equally guilty of pulling America away from its biblical mooring and illegally transforming our government into one whereby we are now ruled according to the planks of the Communist Manifesto. They must adopt or develop a viable plan providing for unity of action on issues and actions of common interest while assuring everyone retains their freedom to pursue their special interests. And above all, they must accept that faith without works is dead and do something; even if it is wrong.


We are facing a spiritual battle with humanity at stake. The rest is up to God when that time will come to judge mankind. Thus, we must repent, accept the Lord Jesus hrist as your savior, be born-again in him in name sake.  So that we may serve him on earth in the holy spirit ,the comforter of mankind ( John chapters: 14 thur 16 KJV Bible, Amen



My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson



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