We've been telling you the difference between a media poll and an internal poll.  Media polls are driven by the desire to achieve a certain outcome.  That is why you think Hillary is leading Trump by 10 points.  If you were paying attention, one of these polls had Hillary up by 15 points before the GOP convention.  After the convention, Trump was up 15 points, a 30 point jump!  Statistically impossible.  After the democrat convention, Hillary was up 10 points, a 25 point swing.  Again, can't happen.  The media is jerking our chain.  DO NOT believe them.  The only polls that can be believed are internal polls that are rarely made public.  While the poll below is not an internal poll, it was done in a most interesting manner - with no perceived bias.  And it is YUGE!  AFA did not conduct the poll.  The people named conducted the poll.

And by the way, it nearly mirrors what internal polls are showing.  By any accurate measure, Hillary is NOT leading Trump in the minds of the voters.

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Scott Ladd:

Here is what a Real Poll looks like in America. Please take the Time to Read.

A Total of 50,000 people Polled in 50 States….


PG Farnsworth:

We have just completed our own poll since we cannot get factual information from the mainstream media!! We called 1000 homes in each of the 50 states and asked basic questions on the economy, terrorism, immigration and presidential pick.


Economy was the number one factor that Americans are concerned about and terrorism was number two.
Presidential pick was Trump by a large percentage.
Trump 33478 votes 67%
Clinton 9788 Votes 19%
Undecided or other 6739 votes 13%


My friends and I are all Graduate students from all walks of life.  We meet to discuss stuff... 13 people who like and have served in the Military. It took us most of two weeks to be sure our calls were to all people and not just one party or another.  We called Americans.. our poll is by taking registered voter lists and we accumulated 33% repub, 33% dems and 34% ind.. our poll consisted of 1000 calls per state. all 50 states. 50,000 people are in this poll not the 100 like other polls.

Please everyone copy and paste to your status so everyone knows that the other polls are rigged!

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Source: ALIPAC

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Thank you AFA for providing this information. It sure makes a lot more sense considering how many people we talk to who feel the same way.

AFA: Thank you for providing comfort during these distressing times. Your research tentacles reach far and wide in the search for the truth.

Very interesting!  Did you also consider the respondents' stated likelihood of voting and how the electoral college results would shake out?

We did not conduct the poll.  We just know what the internals say on this topic and this is from regular smart people who wanted to find the truth and were willing to spend a lot of their time to do it.  These numbers are very close to what internals are measuring.  REAL numbers. if there had been a substantial departure from the real numbers, we would not have posted this.  We need to remember: many real people have real talents and are willing to use them for real issues.  Please re-read the original article if you feel you need a link.... there is no link, it's not online.

No link to the information?  I'm glad everything on the Internet is trustworthy.

Jack, this is not from a link on the internet.  It is from direct contact.  Not everything gets posted on the internet and not everything on there is trustworthy, as you point out.  Please read our comment just above yours for clarity.  Then take it or leave it.

So it's not verify-able by anyone?  I'm pretty confused how this could even be reliable data. If these are conducted by 'internals', so only Republican voters are in the survey?  Seems like this brings up lots of questions, can I read about this anywhere?  Don't want to load up peoples e-mails for something they know about.

Thanks for the reply

Been reading in more detail, but it's still not very clear.  Seems 'internal' polls have the problem of not wanting to hear about their candidate, just good number.  Private polls, I've got a bridge you'd love to own.  Thanks for your help  No need to reply...

OK, one more time: internal polls are done by candidates, donors or PACs for their own personal use to decide strategy, whether to spend money, whether to change strategy, etc.  NO, they do not make these public!  This is common practice!  As we said earlier, take it or leave it.

More than 10,000 showed up for Trump’s rally at Wilmington, North Carolina rally on Tuesday ... then a new poll by Bloomberg on Wednesday shows that Hillary's lead of 12 points has been cut to only 4 today and included other candidates Johnson & Stien. The media is doing everything possible to distract from the reality that Hillary is in a steady decline among the likely voters who view the economy as HER problem, as independents flock to Trump.

Real polls just do not move in that way.  An 8 point swing would suggest 100s of thousands would have changed their minds and answered the poll questions all at the same time.  Bear in mind, also, there are surely more likely voters this year than normal.  Small sample polls could not accurately measure the mindset of the voters.

“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”—Joseph Stalin

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