Its surprising how much you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit
[Editor: Interesting over the backdrop we have been seeing that the wall is already under construction somewhere along the border. What is going to be the excuse of the Republicans now?]
The Trump administration is waiving more than 30 environmental rules to accelerate the construction of President Trump's proposed border wall in New Mexico, forcing environmental groups to consider another round of lawsuits.
The Department of Homeland Security published a notice Monday that said the waiver was necessary to ensure the "expeditious construction of barriers" near the Santa Teresa Land Port of Entry.
"The Secretary of Homeland Security has determined, pursuant to law, that it is necessary to waive certain laws, regulations and other legal requirements in order to ensure the expeditious construction of barriers and roads in the vicinity of the international land border of the United States," according to a notice published in the Federal Register.
The waiver included rules and requirements under several top federal environmental rules, including the National Environmental Policy Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Federal Water Pollution Control Act, the National Historic Preservation Act, the Clean Air Act, the Archaeological Resources Protection Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act, and the Noise Control Act.
The waiver would allow the administration to begin replacing vehicle barriers with bollard walls along a 20-mile stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border west of El Paso, Texas, at the New Mexico land border port.
"The United States Border Patrol’s El Paso Sector is an area of high illegal entry," according to the Department of Homeland Security's notice, stating the need for the waiver. "The El Paso Sector therefore remains an area of high illegal entry for which there is an immediate need to construct border barriers and roads."
The Center for Biological Diversity, the first group to sue the Trump administration over the wall last year, said Monday that it is considering a new lawsuit to address this latest waiver.
Surely is a mixed subject. While I see the need for correction of the illegal immigrants problem as getting to be a major concern, I also realize that for the past 150-200 years, Man has been screwing up the planet a lot. The continued actions in that direction WILL come back to bite us on the butt. So many varieties of living things have disappeared in that time, simply gone and irreplaceable. I haven't a clue what to do about that.
Even though they may call you a tree hugger... I'm glad I got to see a LIVE giant sequoia before industry made lumber out of them all. Science tell us, we don't listen until it actually affects our way of life. Hope it's not too late.
The wall IMHO is a Trump monument. I was hoping for a business person. The ability to electronically wire that boarder so we can probably detect wildlife moving back and forth making people detection easy. Probably guaranteeing a 100% success rate at a minimum of costs and personnel. A few drones to confirm visually and tracking if needed. How many would attempt if we caught 100% of them? Trump needs to move into the 21st Century with his thinking.
Even the wall would not stop any dope or really anyone if they wish to get over it. So someone has to watch it to keep it functional. We have to go out and grind off the catapults they mount on existing walls.
They talk about $10,000 a foot for this... It's a 2000 mile journey! Business would look for an alternative.
Jack, technology is good to have but there is not always a border patrol squad near enough to pick up border crosser's. I've seen a demo of that technology. It was shown to the state legislature a few years ago by someone who wanted to make it a law to put it on our border. As I remember it, Sylvia Allen shot it down. She was wrong again but the deal is that it detects humans from a few hundred feet away not a mile or more that would give a patrol unit to get there in time. Once they are over the border they disperse sometimes into the back of big trucks. Do you know that we taxpayers spend $90 BILLION every year to support these illegals? That is a low estimate and will go up as more come in and go on government assistance. the cost of the wall is miniscule compared to that cost. SO: build the wall, use the technology for early detection even if they get over the wall but they can get past the early detection easier than the wall. I disagree with your thinking.
I don't know what technology that was but at a computer facility that was expensive they grounds could detect anyone withing a couple of yards. Of course these are permanent and the cost of maintenance was next to nothing. You've watched drones following people cars etc. Much lower cost than having someone of the ground 5 miles away or more who can respond quickest when they know where they are going.
I would hope if they built this thing it would be wired...
What system were you referring? I'd still like to look it up...
I can't even imagine what significant environmental impact that could have been claimed along that awful no-man's land border. Most of it has been scraped back anyway, and much has at least a half-a$$ed fence of some kind already. The environmentalists made the same false claims for the pipeline up North, which turned out be completely wrong. How many of the claims for environmental impact against the proposed wall were made during the Obama Administration rule and/or by radical groups with a pro-immigration agenda?
And what about the negative impact of having millions of extra people up here who need power, water, refuse disposal, roads, etc. and have polluting cars and trucks (on average at least several years older on average) but are in the bottom half of income earners and therefore pay no income tax (federal or state) and very little property tax to help pay for dealing with the environmental impact of their needs? Lastly, have any of you seen any of the pictures of the vast litter and waste left behind by those sneaking across the border, or heard any of the horror stories of the residents or LEOs down there as to what really goes on?
Good points, Mike. I think that this is one of those times when the need to handle a significant problem NOW has to be the overriding factor.
Photos from our trip to the border in 2011 - Operation Borderhawk
Just outside Casa Grande along I-8 a major corridor for trafficking even then.
Here is a photo of the terrain that Eric is worried about:
Here are border patrol vehicles, all GM, purchased by Obama, parked 8 miles from one of the busiest crossing points, most never driven. This is only one of several lots like it
You get the idea! This is only ONE crossing spot along the entire border. These scenes are repeated countless times.
Speaking of the sensitive environment, photo one is a great example of how our environment is being treated for about 800 miles or so.
It is a quite beautiful in a unique way. Along with all the great variation of wildlife that lives there. Eye of the beholder. Many of these types of areas are sensitive to changes such as migration paths.
Remember environmentally we don't know about it's effect for an extended time, sometimes decades.. Look at DDT..
Everyone was sure alcohol prohibition would work... Sounded good.
We need to stop doing what we know doesn't work and figure out some way to make it work.
When they start building a wall, the people will start figuring out how to circumnavigate it to get whatever contraband they are trafficking to market. It's a business and this will make it even more lucrative.
Jack, I am always irked by people who sit it out and tell everyone else what THEY should do. Get yourself elected to some political seat and take up the issues you care about.
When they fly drones, they can be shot down, when they install underground transmitters they will find a way too so let's just do nothing. For every action, there is a reaction. So let's just forget the whole thing. Open the borders and turn ourselves into a third world country and let's see what the reaction is.
Isn't that what an opinion is, as far as discussion. I learn from you.. That's the beauty of this...
And I don't appreciate the 'sit on my butt.' I'm a PC and I spend time at the capitol attending to issues I care about. Did I meet you at the capitol?
Except that I didn't say what you put in quotes. I said "sit it out" and get yourself elected to office so you can do more than you can do otherwise. You may well have met me at the capitol. But I don't remember any fowl (just foul) there and you probably didn't see my goat there.