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Convention of the States

This group is for discussion of the Convention of the States, Article V of the Constitution, advanced in the Mark Levin book, The Liberty Amendment.

Recommended reading, but not easy reading.  This concept is very thoughtfully presented and it makes clear that it is up to we, the people, to bring America back to her founding principles.  This is a good way to get that under way.

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Citizens for Self Governance

YOU can help in forming a Convention of States

Ultimately, the success of the Article V depends on the citizens of the United States.  Volunteers will be the engine that drives this project.  If Americans are willing to sacrifice their time and energy, there is still time to halt the tyrannical abuses of the federal government. 

Interested individuals are encouraged to join our growing grassroots movement by signing up on the Take Action page. There, individuals can pledge to contact their legislators and will be notified when important volunteer opportunities arise. These opportunities include: 

  1. Volunteering to contact your legislators to support a Convention of the States

  2. Volunteering to attend a legislative hearing to support a Convention of the States

  3. Agreeing to volunteer for the next campaign for a legislator/candidate who supports a Convention of the States

  4. Donating to candidates/legislators who support a Convention of the States

  5. Donating to CSG to support this project

 

Click this attachment to get a printable copy of this plan.  Feel free to save to your computer.  CSG-How-You-Can-Help-2009-04-2013.doc

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Discussion Forum

Jim DeMint joins the fight.

Started by Arizona Freedom Alliance. Last reply by Patty Jun 16. 8 Replies

Former U.S. Senator Jim DeMint has officially joined the Convention of States Project as a Senior Advisor! For nearly two decades, DeMint made a name for himself in Washington fighting for freedom,…Continue

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Unsullied by Falsehood: The Signing Of The Declaration of Independence by Harvard University

Started by Tif Morgan May 17. 0 Replies

 This is what we found out, Professor Danielle Allen Emily Sneff of The West Sussex Record Office, challenged two different, Preambles to the Declaration Of Independence, and they went further to…Continue

Tags: Harvard-University, New, America, Independence, Declaration

The Unanimous Declaration Of The Thirteen United States Of America: July 4, 1776 Sussex Doc.

Started by Tif Morgan. Last reply by Tif Morgan May 15. 5 Replies

 A update, The truth exposed ! The Unanimous Declaration Of The Thirteen United States Of  America: July 4, 1776, Sussex Document, is a major find, and will become a political blunder against the…Continue

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Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of The United States of America

Started by Tif Morgan May 6. 0 Replies

 The formatting of the document to images has been completed, The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America, was placed before our board members, and copies sent out to…Continue

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Comment by marc on August 22, 2016 at 10:17am

Michael - Civilization as we "knew" it has ended and my first argument still is spot on.

What makes you think that even if The Convention of States successfully past a great amendment that the government would pay anymore attention to it than they do our laws and constitution now?

Answer: they wouldn't

Comment by Michael Alexander on August 22, 2016 at 10:05am

That pretty much covers it, Bruce... now the fear-mongers will have to come up with something new to try to convince everyone that a COS will bring an end to civilization as we know it.

Comment by Bruce M Piepho on August 22, 2016 at 9:56am

The key to really understand the Convention of States and the safety is two fold:

1. Only amendments can be proposed and each amendment must be approved by 38 states or more.

2. The resolutions by each state must focus on limited gov such as repeal 17th amendment or force a balanced budget.  But the answer to possible run-a-way potential is in clause #3 of state resolutions.  An example is from Arizona:

Be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the State of Arizona, the Senate concurring:

1.  That, pursuant to Article V of the Constitution of the United States, the Legislature of the State of Arizona formally applies to the Congress of the United States to call a convention of the states limited to proposing amendments to the Constitution of the United States that impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.

2.  That this application constitutes a continuing application in accordance with Article V of the Constitution of the United States until at least two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states have made application on the same subjects.

3.  That this application is revoked, withdrawn, nullified and superseded, retroactive to the date of enactment, if the application is used for the purpose of calling a convention or is used in support of conducting a convention to amend the Constitution of the United States for any purpose other than to impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government or limit the terms of office for federal officials and members of Congress.

4.  That the Secretary of State of the State of Arizona transmit a copy of this Resolution to the President and Secretary of the United States Senate, the Speaker and Clerk of the United States House of Representatives, each Member of Congress from the State of Arizona and the presiding officers of each house of the several state legislatures, requesting their cooperation.

Comment by Bruce M Piepho on August 22, 2016 at 9:48am

The draft #28 amendment was from a Mock Convention of States held in Arizona on 12/5/2015.  There are numerous possibilities to reign in the federal gov.

The convention itself will be an open, closely followed public forum where true conservative ideas can finally be proposed, expounded upon and debated for the entire nation to see.
● Ideas like term limits for Congress and all federal judges;
● requiring Congress to pass an annual balanced budget under penalty of law;
● prohibiting votes on all but one-subject bills;
● banning international laws and treaties from influencing our courts;
● clarifying and greatly narrowing the General Welfare and Commerce clauses;
● ending the IRS and the EPA as we know it; just to name a few.

Comment by Michael Alexander on August 22, 2016 at 9:14am

Marc - Top of every COS List of Proposed Amendments is Repeal of the Seventeenth... and right beneath that is mandatory term limits, followed closely by your balanced budget "BS"... while the Convention of States isn't a single-issue effort, it could be described as single focus - to reduce the size, scope and jurisdiction of the federal government.

Comment by marc on August 22, 2016 at 9:07am

Bruce - why not start with the heart of the matter: the 17th.

And a feather in your hat for not pushing budget BS

But your 28th is a very big step. It would make a difference.

Comment by Bruce M Piepho on August 22, 2016 at 8:58am

Marc - Maybe this would do?

An Amendment to Check the Power of the Federal Government
Amendment XXVIII [DRAFT]
Section 1. The several state legislatures, by a three-fifths majority vote, shall have the power to (1) repeal any law passed by Congress, (2) veto any line item in any appropriations or other budget legislation, (3) vacate any ruling of the Supreme Court, (4) cancel any Presidential executive order, (5) withdraw any regulation issued by any Federal agency or department.
Section 2. In any action under this amendment, each state legislature shall have exactly one vote, and none of the actions shall be subject to judicial review. Each action shall become effective on the day that the three-fifths-majority requirement is met.

NOTE: There have only been 27 amendments since 1776.

Comment by Eduard Goheen on August 22, 2016 at 8:57am

Our Congress does follow the Constitution now.  The problem is that we have two Constitutions; one as written by our Founding Fathers, and one as misinterpreted by the Supreme Court.  We need to clarify the wording of the Constitution, by amendment, so that the original intent of our Founding Fathers, as set out in the Federalist Papers, can no longer be perverted by a "progressive" Supreme Court.

Comment by marc on August 22, 2016 at 8:27am

What makes you think that even if The Convention of States successfully past a great amendment that the government would pay anymore attention to it than they do our laws and constitution now?

Answer: they wouldn't

Comment by Bruce M Piepho on August 22, 2016 at 7:55am

The Convention of States movement is still growing.  In Arizona there now have been over 14,000 total petition signatures.  Probably the best news of the last 6 months is the decision  of state Senate President to run for U.S. Congress.

I am looking forward to a productive resolution passage process in the 2017 legislative session.

 

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