We have information on the post election activities at the Maricopa County Recorders office. In a word, it's an office in chaos. What does that mean?

According to our reporter in the room where ballots are normally counted, “ballots are being thrown around everywhere.” What kind of ballots, we asked. Provisional ballots, early ballots that have not been opened, ballots from the voting centers and corrected ballots, we were told.

Many reports have come into us that voters went to their polling place to vote in person. The poll workers were so disorganized or under-trained that they would force voters to vote provisional ballots, ballots that would not appear in the original counting that is reported in the totals for the Secretary of State's site to put online. Provisional ballots are always counted, but much later... counted last. When you have poll workers forcing voters who are at their legitimate polling place to vote a provisional ballot, chaos will surely reign supreme. The other problem is that Adrian Fontes, Maricopa County Recorder and in charge of this election – not, by the way, ever is it the Secretary of States responsibility for the elections - opened quite a few early, early voting centers. These centers were in effect about 60 days prior to Primary Day and cost taxpayers millions of dollars. Because anyone could go anywhere to vote at the centers up to sixty + days prior to the actual primary, ballots were in disarray and have to be sorted and recorded to all the different precincts across Maricopa County. There are hundreds of precincts so we can easily see what a problem it would be to sort through those ballots and get them into the proper precinct to match to the voter rolls. A lot of extra work that must be paid for. The Elections Department is in the hands of the democrat Maricopa County Recorder to handle from start to finish. This is no one's problem but Adrian Fontes' who is the new recorder in Maricopa.

A member of AFA on site to help with hand counts and processing reports that Fontes is bringing in people “off the street,” which is to say, untrained and no idea who they are, to review ballots that are called “corrected ballots.” It has always been our understanding that if a voter “spoils” their ballot by voting for the wrong person, they are supposed turn in the spoiled ballot and get a new one. Spoiled ballots have never been counted on the races that don't comply such as over voting. What happens is that voters write in the margins what their intent was such as writing NO by the name they didn't want to vote for and then marking an extra name on the ballot. The machines can't read the margin notes and will kick the ballot out. What democrat Fontes is doing is hiring people who have no training, paying them $10 an hour to take the spoiled ballots – called by him “corrected ballots” - and handing over to a hireling to decide how the voter intended to vote and then counting that vote. Visions of Florida chads come to mind. There is a reason voters have long been instructed to request a new ballot but as we know, voters pay little attention. To put these ballots into strange, untrained hands is consistent with voter fraud. Someone who is untrained and unknown is making a guess as to how the person wanted to vote.

In fact, thousands of early ballots have come in with no signature on the envelope. The signatures are important and are supposed to be matched to the signatures on file in the computer. Again, those who have never been trained are looking at the voter rolls to make a determination if the signatures match, except where there is no signature. Sometimes, it appears, the ballots are visible to the inspectors so how the ballot was voted is also visible. This defies the concept of secret ballot. Our contact has also told us that the chaotic situation has allowed thousands of illegal votes to be counted and many are from those who are not legally qualified to be voting.  Our member told us that one candidate she noticed got hundreds of votes on the ballots they are just opening and counting.  The AZSOS online count shows that same candidate down a 1000 votes from the original tabulation!

As of this writing, “thousands of ballots are not yet opened” and ballots are being handed around the tabulation room at the recording officer's location. There are no control methods in place to handle these ballots that fall outside of the rules, no recordings of what is happening.  This election has to be certified the Monday after Labor Day.  What do you think will happen if all ballots are not properly counted?

Chaos! Perhaps the Attorney General should be looking into what is happening in the tabulation rooms at the Maricopa County Recorders office!

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Is someone trying to keep the " organized confusion orderly"? There are many seditionists and useful idiots around.  ALL elections will have to be watched closely.

This is scary beyond belief. The Left's dream is to federalize all voting and this is how they do it. Ensure incapable people are in charge so voting is in chaos.  

If our country federalizes our voting WE ARE DONE!

I find it interesting that today, 4 days after elections several districts still can't report how many ballots were early ballots, how many were at the polls and how many were provisional. My LD, 21, they still have it blank. Same for several others including LD22. So how can they say all the votes are in and these are accurate? I don't trust that our elections we're fairly counted or have any integrity.

So where does this leave us?

We believe there are people who will be taking this or a similar report to the Board of Supervisors.

There are candidate races that are waiting that are "too close to call" as well. How can we trust the votes that have already been counted were counted properly?? Corruption through-and-through...

We can't.  We expect a group will be in touch with the BOS about this.  We understand that at noon today, 27,000 +- votes still need to be counted.

Sure hope we can get this mess straightened out.  We are surrounded by people who want to see America lose its Constitution.

As an election Inspector for several years, it was disappointing when the training ahead of time didn't give all the polling personnel the training. There were only four terminals set up for training demonstrations, not hands-on and it was only 10 days ahead of the election. The Inspectors and Judges, who were the only ones to see the computers, were not given the opportunity to actually run the test samples through machines to see how they were going to work. It took us an extra half hour to hour to figure out how to be efficient in working with voters on Election Day. The closing was really chaotic because the instructions failed to cover everything that was to be done. As a former official, I felt handicapped and when the troubleshooter came about 8:30 or so, we had to undo a good portion of what we had done and redo it. That meant we didn't get to leave until after 9:00 p.m. and then had to deliver the ballots and results to the collection site. There were five more precincts to turn in their ballots at that time. We were one of the polling places that opened on time with all people present and had no real problems during the day. We only had two provisional ballots and one voter who couldn't vote, but that was because she hadn't received her voter ID when she registered online a couple months prior to the election. After hearing of all the other problems that went on in the county, we counted ourselves very fortunate.

NPV will be the demise of America as we know it.  Hope these people you mention will have a change of heart.

Isn't it self-evident that I know there is no GOOD in evil.  Good overcomes evil hence my comment about the change of heart.

We reject the concept of "don't vote for the better of two evils."  The real problem is that good candidates rarely run and when they do, the conservatives in the GOP, even in the activist community, won't support them beyond voting for them.  We must get active in GOTV activities.  But we continue to talk to the wind.  Therefore, there is only evil 1 and evil 2 = which do you vote for?  There were a very few exceptions this year on the state level and a few more on the legislative level.  How many conservatives actually won?  The federal level was a disaster from beginning to end. 

if we think this is bad, wait until the Nov election.  That one is for all the cookies and I have to wonder what fontes has in store for us then.  But then we knew this would happen with democrats in that office. It's the reason Soros/Steyer put so much money behind him.





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