Arizona Citizens Supporting Honest Representative Government At All Levels
[Editor: This response from Sen Barto is nearly word for word the same response that came to us from Sen. Sylvia Allen. These foolish lawmakers are parroting Constantine Querard's talking points. We forgive CQ - he's getting paid to represent the NPV movement. But Senators are getting paid by taxpayer funds to represent THEM. Everyone who opposes this effort to convert America into France or Italy - a democracy instead of the Republic that makes America exceptional - needs to call the Senators at azleg.gov Tell the person who answers the phone NO on SB1218 and HB2456. We have been told that CQ is getting his side to burn up their phones over and over calling and saying YES.]
I will check this out as I wrote Sue, who is my senator, and read her the riot act. Looks like if you are correct I owe her a big apology. Thanks for the info.
Just consider what will happen the next time we have a close or contested election. You just THINK that Gore v Bush 2000 was a hanging chad nightmare... that was only a few select counties in just one state.
If these "compact" states want presidential candidates to pay them more attention, they should all just drop the "winner-take-all" method and go with proportional allocation so as not to be taken for granted.
I looked at the map for the anticipated results of 2016 elections. All of the 10 states that have approved the NVP are Democrat States or lean democrat...... thought the whole idea was for Repubs to win......
It's politico but it shows AZ as "likely Repub" not solid Repub..... all we need is a few more Democrats and AZ will be one of those swing States Sen Barto thinks we should be.
Since 1929, (CQ says to move the date back to 1928 and it changes but we are looking forward, not backward) more Democrats than Republicans have voted in Presidential elections. Most of those years were well before we had so many illegal immigrants registered to vote. The biggest 20 metropolitan areas in America will vote Democrat in large numbers and the race will be over... NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Atlanta, Houston... you get the idea. The big selling point CQ made to the Senators and Representatives - I say that with tongue in cheek because they are not representing US, they are representing CQ - are counting on this bringing all the presidential candidates to Phoenix! They are willing to dissolve the sovereignty of America for a peek at some liberal candidate!!
So, since 1928 only ONE time more Repubs voted than Dems?? and that was 1928... how stupid are these people????
We assume that yours is a rhetorical question? But, to be clear, there may have been a few years, very few like one, where the Republicans outvoted the Dems but in the aggregate, the Dems have it. These people think that more republicans will vote but in fact, republicans in rural areas and "fly-over" county - the vulgarians - will never vote when they discover that the election is won with a disregard for their vote. The Electoral College takes into account smaller states and weights for fairness toward those states. That will be lost.
I know from experience that WE ARE THE BOSS - but only when we are faithful in exercising our responsibility by engaging in the process on a consistent basis. There is no other entity that has more clout than we do if we do our job.
I quote Ronald Reagan:
I do not believe we are doomed to a fate that will fall on us no matter what we do. I do believe we are doomed to a fate that will fall on us if we do nothing.
As a general rule, our enemies prevail when we sit back and complain about their prevailing instead of defeating them.
Defeatism engenders defeatism.
The overall small number of AzRA members turned six sponsors to vote against 2456. If EVERY AzRA member across the state had been as engaged as Jim O'Connor and the other few, the result would have been even more dramatic. Why was this run through in nearly record time? Because more people were becoming interested. Read the comments here. Most of the commenters have come to the knowledge of this late.
Until the conservatives are pro-active instead of reactive, we will continue to lose fights we should win.
If this were NOT TO change the Constitutions of either the State or U.S., and the electoral college, THEN WHY DO IT Ms. Barto?? We are wise to the politics of deceptions. Arizona would be ignored by joining a "compact" of other states, an act of diluting our individual sovereignty. This is the fallacy of a "democracy" where mob rule prevails, and those who have the politically correct influence ... rape us all.
When was the last time California went Republican? And you think that with all the illegals ways Californians vote you will "capture California's 55 electoral votes"?? Those 55 votes ARE political power which will railroad Arizonians to being just an afterthought !!! This "compact" destroys Federalism, and the 10th amendment to our U.S. Constitution. It is just another grab of our sovereign power ... our independent vote ... by way of handing over our electoral power to the PC crowd of Californians. You mention "The tradeoff is influence for identity" ... is that critical thinking forward to the consequences of such a plan of evil by deception? It is the REMOVAL of our self-interest security found in our electors, and given to the pundits of crony capitalism. AND IT WON'T STOP with just this "compact" !! It is the incrementalism of power over the individual.
Be very much aware that LD15 is lining up real conservatives who will dispose of you AT ELECTION TIME !!!
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