United Methodist Court Upholds Ban on LGBTQ Clergy, Same Sex Marriage

CHICAGO (RNS) — The United Methodist Church’s top court has upheld much of the Traditional Plan approved earlier this year, continuing the global denomination’s ban on the ordination and marriage of its LGBTQ members.

Approved by delegates to a special session of the United Methodist Church’s General Conference in February, the Traditional Plan strengthens language in the denomination’s Book of Discipline that bars LGBTQ clergy and forbids same-sex marriage.

That rulebook currently states that “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching” and that “self-avowed practicing homosexuals” cannot be ordained as ministers, appointed to serve or be married in the church.

The Traditional Plan, as upheld by a Judicial Council decision announced Friday (April 26), defines a “self-avowed practicing homosexual” as a person who is “living in a same-sex marriage, domestic partnership or civil union or is a person who publicly states she or he is a practicing homosexual.”

The plan also bars bishops from consecrating, ordaining or commissioning “self-avowed practicing homosexuals” even if they have been elected or approved by the appropriate church body. It prohibits those church bodies from approving or recommending them as candidates, as well.

And it strengthens current complaint procedures and penalties in the Book of Discipline. A clergy member who performs a same-sex wedding will face a minimum one-year suspension without pay for the first offense and a loss of credentials for the second.

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Do they hold their members to the same standards?  If all would read 1 Corinthians 6 the entire chapter it lays out quite specifically if you practice certain things you won't be inheriting the Kingdom of God, so believe since that's the true standard if applied by all churches as was once the practice then Morality might once again flourish and give all of us the hope of our founders as stated it will take a Moral People to retain this Republic. 

Hmmmm...when I saw "United Methodist Church", a big bell went off in my head.   I double checked what I thought I'd already seen regarding this particular church group...resident in Chicago...and I was correct.  This link is to a fairly long explanation, but it seems backed up by strong evidence.  I leave this to you, fellow Constitutionalists, to see if this also rings bells for you.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7XgFaCpdk


United Methodist Court must be racist.



"When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death" - James 1:13-15

Sounds like most in office, you know the Vote 4 Better of Two Evils Theology practiced by most, however there are a few of us that don't adhere to this Evil Theology spewed by those in Office as well as their minions.
God Bless You; Clair Van Steenwyk

Clair, you say that constantly so here is my question to you:

election for office X, candidates running are Republican candidate 1 and R candidate 2 and maybe another candideate 3.  None are constitutional and may be evil by your standards.  Evil is a hard word to define the way you use it because most are just bad, not evil which is irredeemable.

On the other side are democrat candidates, none of which have ever read the Constitution and are social democrats.

Someone is going to win.  Who do you vote for since all fall into the category of 'evil.'

None; we've been betrayed by the better of two evil votes for decades now and still most follow the GOP rule of voting for them, and by the way being evil doesn't make you irredeemable as God reaches down to any who'll repent, however

John5319 6 hours ago

"When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death" by Christ it can be overcome.

It states very clearly that God Granted us our Rights and since scripture says God is Good then his gifts to us are as well, and thereby anyone who attempts to take them from us is Evil, this may seem simple to some however this has been my guide for decades now and believe if other believers would follow the process we wouldn't have the problems we now do.
One more thing I've found several who read the Constitution and those in office take an Oath as well but then go forward and attempt and at time succeed to remove our God Granted Rights, so once again for me simple rule to follow. 

God Bless You; Clair Van Steenwyk 

I totally disagree with Clair on this. By abdication responsibility to vote for the better of the candidates we get candidates like McCain.  Take the recent senate election.  the better candidate was Ward. I'm no Ward fan but she would be better on several levels: she was a freshman and had no power yet; she wasn't already embroiled in the pay-for-play system, etc.  That means she would do less damage than McCain.  Anybody would meet that simple goal.  So by voting for NONE, you would elect McCain or at least, contribute to his election.  Where's the honor in that? (rhetorical question)  But in America everyone gets to vote the way they see fit and for too many, they see taking the easy route is fit.  When you have no good candidate but one is substantially worse, you might be evil for refusing to vote out people like McCain.

I'd never agree that not voting for someone with a record of already going along with violating our rights is evil, and recall her votes as a AZ Senator so this for myself and others who spent hrs. speaking in her Ed Committee hearings and still she and others voted against the AZ Constitution, this is once again voting for the Better of 2 Evils, and her recent support for more taxes is once again proof not much has changed, understand some feel compelled to do what is being suggested here but many of us are still trying to support Truthful, Honest Constitution Candidates and nothing less. God Bless You; Clair Van Steenwyk

too bad for you that life is not as simple as you pretend it to be.  Black and white no longer exists in our system and for those like you who think everything, or at least voting, is one or the other just contribute to the problem.  ANYONE was better that McCain and easier to get rid of later.  Look at Flake if you don't believe me.  One term and shoved out.  This problem will not be solved in one or two elections but it would be a process if people would get off the high horses, which also won't happen.  Not everything is like the trite saying "better of 2 evils" which, I might mention, you have worn out.  So thanks maybe to your way of seeing this, we have Sinema.  Until we get a candidate that is




      ELECTABLE we are stuck with what we have.



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